A special social justice event via Zoom with Kimberly Jones and Gilly Segal, the New York Times bestselling co-authors of I'm Not Dying With You Tonight. We wanted to make sure as many people as possible could listen in so we decided to release the full conversation and Q&A here as well. We discuss what's going on in the world related to the Black Lives Matter movement and Covid-19, having difficult conversations with those you're close with and those you aren't, performative brand management, white fragility and much more. We end with a bit of book recommendation fun.